[Application-profiles-ig] ShExStatements first version

Mon Mar 30 17:29:38 BST 2020

I think it's ready for use. I have asked Wikidata community members for feedback. I have used it for creating new entity schemas on Wikidata:https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements/tree/master/examples/wikidataBest Regards, John Samuel On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 4:19 PM Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote: >Wow, great John! So now we have actually two examples of code (yours and>Tom's) that people can use to create Wikidata schemas. Do we think we>are ready to make this available more widely in the Wikidata community?>What do people think?>>kc>>On 3/29/20 2:51 AM, John Samuel wrote:>> Hi Karen,>>>> Now ShExStatements can also take as input tabular formats for>> Application Profiles for generating ShEx. Inspired from your example,>> here is the Application Profile for language [1]. The columns may have>> all these terms: 'Entity_name, Property, Property_label, Mand, Repeat,>> Value, Value_type, Annotation' as proposed here [2].>>>> To generate ShEx from Application Profile, the user has to pass the>> option -ap to clarify that the input CSV file follows the Application>> Profile format.>>>> Taking into account that the columns for Application Profile is still>> under discussion, this may mean further changes to ShExStatements in>> future.>>>> 1.>>>https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements/blob/master/examples/languageap.csv>.>> 2.>>>https://github.com/dcmi/dcap/blob/master/prototypes/wikidatapainting/E130b.csv>> 3.>https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements/blob/master/README.md>>>> Best Regards,>> John Samuel>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:00 PM John Samuel <johnsamuelwrites at gmail.com>> johnsamuelwrites at gmail.com>> wrote:>>>> Hi Karen,>>>> First of all, thank for your feedback. Here are my responses to the>> two questions:>>>> 1. Yes, ShExStatements is currently using a single position for both>> value and value types, as the goal is to simplify writing ShEx (by>> reducing the column count). However, if you are separating them for>> the application profiles, such a possibility need to be further>> explored.>> 2. A more verbose template is doable. However, I need to explore it>> a bit more, on how to integrate such a concept to ShExStatements in>> a more generic manner (like mapping templates for different use>cases).>>>> Best Regards,>> John Samuel>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:21 PM Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net>> kcoyle at kcoyle.net>> wrote:>>>> Hi, John, thanks for this! I'm trying to make the mapping from>our>> template to yours. It appears that your template reads:>>>> entity | property | value | cardinality | comments>>>> Whereas ours reads (leaving out the unused elements):>>>> entity_id | property | value_type | value | mandatory |>> repeatable |>> annotation>>>> Two things immediately jump out as ones we have recently>discussed:>>>> 1. We are separating the value type and the value. Am I correct>> that you>> are using a single position for those? I see things like:>>>> @painting,P31,Q3305213>> @painting,P572,xsd:dateTime>> @painting,P170, at creator>> @creator,P2561,LITERAL,#name>>>> in which Q3305213, xsd:dateTime, @creator, LITERAL all occupy the>> "value" column.>>>> 2. We are separating the cardinality functions of mandatory and>> repeatable because we figure that many people don't understand>> the more>> compact notation, either the UML-type notation of "1..n" nor the>> ShEx>> values borrowed from regular expressions.>>>> Would it be possible to create a transform that makes use of our>> more>> verbose template? (We would have to decide what to use for the>> values of>> mandatory/repeatable - "y/n" or "1/0" or "T/F" ... )>>>> Thanks,>> kc>>>>>> On 3/23/20 5:34 AM, John Samuel via Application-profiles-ig>wrote:>> > Hi,>> >>> > The first version of ShExStatements is now released:>> >https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements>> >>> > The main goal is to help newcomers easily write shape>> expressions. The>> > users write a CSV file and ShExStatements will translate it>> to a shex file.>> >>> > Take for example, a CSV file concerning a language (with>> prefixes):>> >>>>https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements/blob/master/examples/language.csv>>>> > is translated to a shape expression>> >>> (https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements#quick-start).>As>> you>> >可以看到,有五个列。Columns 3,4 and 5 are empty>for>> > prefixes. Columns 1, 2, 3 are mandatory for others. Column 3>> can be .>> > (to say any value). Column 4 is for cardinality (+,*) and>> column 5 for>> > comments.>> >>> > More examples can be found here:>> >>>>https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/ShExStatements/tree/master/examples>> >>> > In my opinion, it's possible to consider such CSV files for>> describing>> > application profiles.>> >>> > Please let me know if you have any questions/remarks.>> >>> > Best Regards,>> > John Samuel>> >https://johnsamuel.info/>>>> -->> Karen Coyle>>kcoyle at kcoyle.net< mailto:kcoyle at kcoyle.net>http://kcoyle.net>> skype: kcoylenet>>>>>>>> -->> Best Regards,>> John Samuel>>https://johnsamuel.info/>>>>>> -->> Best Regards,>> John Samuel>>https://johnsamuel.info/>>-->Karen Coyle>kcoyle at kcoyle.nethttp://kcoyle.net>skype: kcoylenet>-- Best Regards, John Samuelhttps://johnsamuel.info/-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.www.voudr.com/pipermail/application-profiles-ig/attachments/20200330/f5d82e2e/attachment.htm>